I would like to know more about this because i think this is not a good idea at all.

but can you tell me where? be cause those instructor just aint training anymore. thanks for answering me

" Paul says:

"You are already better than I am. You must find a better trainer. I am only profficient to train you to skill level 30.""

and i just have 81 in Agi

The change just made it impossible to catch up to the leaders.

i agree with increasing time required to train each consecutive step, but i call bullshit on setting lvl requirement to 30
i mean, we start with 20, and first 50 points into marksmanship is a no- brainer
i can't leave the map until lvl 10, but i can't train over lvl 3
if i want to train, i'm forced to leave map or train less important stats, or, stop playing or not use my lvl up to get training first

this is pointless, i can't see any way this is improving gameplay
this is just another artificial cockblock like lvl requirement, but i might be wrong, please explain yourself

i suggest another way, i can only train +30 skill points on first map
think logically, even if i improve my marksmanship through experience, i still miss the basics my john whatever can teach me
so if by level 10 i have 70 marksmanship, i can train it up to 100
mkay?

Posted By Kahn on 11-08-2010 06:37 PM
The change just made it impossible to catch up to the leaders.

you never could

O contrare! I started at rank 3k+ and now I'm 725.

i did my training out on the streets, 100 marksmanship for me and a 90% + hit rate with ANY automatic, i can more than hold my own against anything that comes at me.

If you cant train in the buildings then go outside and clear areas, TONS of XP to be had.

The problem isn't the training per see (at least not in my case anyway) the problems lies in the fact that after all that SP burn or just want to log out for the day (I can't always afford to play all the time), what are you going to do now with the off-times while waiting for the SP to recover?

Earn cash? Please, I can get those from zeds fairly enough.

Also, is it just me, or has the ZP team had gotten lazy giving us proper updates of the game? Last I checked they failed to mention 2 critical changes already though they had been discussed.

-Looting system has changed
-Training limits

@Mike
The problem with buildings is that zeds within them are very closed ranged, requiring everyone to have a different mindset and/or build and currently the CQC abilities are awfully limited with the only perk being you don't worry about bullets. Most people, especially beginners would be optimized for ranged combat instead. Imagine trying to fight a horde of zombies+ everything else coming by and you only get one shot; the hordes could have as many as 5-20 times the number of attacks per turn to the point you probably won't even feel your AGI or CON helping you at all.

Aya i think you misunderstood me, when i said if you cant train in buildings i meant if you cant train at; the library, the gym, the shooting range etc.

and another thing: i one hit just about everything that comes at me.

Sorry I read as 'can' instead of 'cant'. I usually recognize can't with a ' in it.

Anyway Grammar Nazi aside.

My current agenda at the moment Mike is training (killing Zeds) within buildings because I like to be a cleaner and help put the newbs during the missions, plus it saves me the trouble of looking for Zeds all around the map. Thankfully I have an Anti-horde weapon with me right now and if I have to guess, you're probably using a machinegun of sorts.

Since we can't train anymore, can we request the ZP team to adjust or compensate by allowing to earn cash instead for working hours? So far I only have the College Campus for this. I'm asking for other general safehouses to have these too. We need the cash for the bullets at least.

yeeaaahhh, if your maxed out (over the local trainer) you can "work" there for 150(for 10h) instead of 100(each 10h'rs)(think its like that dont know long time since i worked for my money xD)

so you just made my life more difficult

when i start over, i WON'T add a single point from level ups until i have trained the stat to the maximum, otherwise i just lose valueable points i could use in end-stages of the game, or just for the sake of it

if i invest points from lvl up, i lose the ability to train stat
this is a fundamental flaw of this update, players are punished for developing the character

unless you make a trainer with unlimited level at the end of the game, then it can even up in the end
but even then i'm pushed around, but i will adress this in separate topic

chiming in late, but then that's my name. Yes, I found the sudden "I can't train you anymore" a bit sudden, but I can also understand the reasoning. My first character has already completed all the quests and had, what, 3 tiles to explore on map 1? It was time to explore map 2 anyway.
kD, I agree. The hard-earned skill points that were carefully allocated to improving what seemed important skills way back when now seem wasted. If I had to do it over again, I'd avoid putting the skill points from up-leveling into skills, and put more of them into constitution. Maybe not all, but instead of 1 or maybe 2 of 5, as I first did it, maybe 4 of 5. When I first started playing, the Mercy was the only place to train agil, and it was the furthest from the campus so it was the last I discovered. At the lower leverls, every up-level was an automatic +1 ag and +1 or +2 con, the rest into whatever skill I needed most. Now that we're able to train agil at 2 locations, and there is an upper limit, I'd definitely tweak my "survival first" approach. Starting over, at the lower levels i would spend more time off-line restoring my SP and upgrading my training and proportionately less time playing. More time scavying loot and less time bopping zeds, because increasing a level doesn't benefit the survivor as much when those skill points aren't worth wasting on trainable CC or STR or whatever. Not sure if that's what the dev team wants or not. OTOH, you've got the statement above saying that they don't want people over-training; like Mom saying, "It's a beautiful day today. Stop watching TV and get out of the house!" OTOH, you've got a policy tht paradoxically seems to reinforce the behaviour it was meant to curb.
If we're going to have a progression of increasingly difficult maps, let's hope we have a progression of increasingly proficient trainers. Otherwise, with an artificial levelling-off of skills, you're going to see a corresponding levelling-off of interest.

Oh wait, another thing. Don't roll your eyes like that, I won't be long.
Every time I went to the gym to train my STR, I was met by the trainer who told me that I had better start on the little ones, because I'm so puny. OK, that must have been funny once upon a time. Suddenly I'm too big and strong to train. Is it possible to vary the message, in response to the character's skill level? Say at levels 10-20 you get the jokes, like "You better not breathe too hard, or you'll knock yourself over", or whatever. Levels 20-30 you might get "Take it easy, kid. You don't become Charles Atlas in a weekend". Levels 30-40 you might get "Looking good, my friend!", and upwards of that something like "How's it going, champ?" Maybe at the last level before the cut-off, the trainer could say, "You're too good for me. I can't help you anymore", and so let you know that ou've reached your limit at that facility.

Oh wait, just one more more thing. Maybe those messages could be taken from (directly? indirectly?) the "Make you a man" song in the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Really, don't you think that Doctor Frank would fit in there somewhere?

i found a solution right Link: here

I am wondering why i only can train 8 skill points in maskman at Campus. Can anyone tell me why?

because the devs overkilled training
30 stat is max now, although it will be adjusted later
vote and post Link: here
to get it revised