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| 07-04-2010 09:09 PM |
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We had a couple of requests on some more melee weapons. Would you also like more melee samurai, ninja weapons and bladed weapons in general? If so we will try to create some more for you (feel free to suggest what you would like in the thread). |
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Irus
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| 07-04-2010 09:50 PM |
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Well I would personally.  Dunno how many ninja weapons would be better than a Zanbato. That thing is epic in real life. I did think that double bladed sword in the Movie ninja assasian was pretty cool, It slid from end to end. Thats really awesome. |
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ninjo ZP Community Moderator
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| 08-04-2010 01:27 AM |
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i can come up with a few ;D |
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lurchdeath
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| 08-04-2010 02:45 AM |
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Some of the melee weapons that might be used: A scissor, a bladed weapon that had a hollow handle; it would cover the users arm up to the elbow, perfect for a little extra armor. A trident, it has a little distance and can skewer multiple enemies if they happen to be standing in a straight line Nets, can be thrown on a zombie to disable movement A blow torch attached to a crude sword, like the shish kabob from fall out 3 Ball and chain, heavy blunt force rotating from a point and it might be even used as a ranged weapon Shields, extra armor other mechanized weapons buzz saws, wood chippers, and of course a lawn mower<zombie movie reference, guess what it might be. War hammer, heavy hitting weapon
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Trance_IX ZP Community Moderator
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| 08-04-2010 05:17 AM |
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Novelty weapons would be quite nice, Ninja/Samurai weapons will usually be a staple but I would like to see Gladiator like weapons. |
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Odigo
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| 08-04-2010 05:38 AM |
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The sad thing is, the majority of these weapons wont even be used by the average player. We need to have a thing that makes in necessary for players to use any weapon they can get their hands on instead of that Compact Minigun they just happen to stumble upon in a gunshop that happens to be not looted by raiders. Dont get me wrong, I like my Ak47, but it all seems rather too convenient. In comparison, buying a compact minigun in this game, would be like buying "The Blade of God-Slaying and Unicorn taming" in some MMORPG at the newbie starter area. |
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CarlBreder
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| 08-04-2010 08:35 AM |
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well, i dont know how many squares it is, but theres a low chance of someone stumbling over Gary's gun store xD |
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| 08-04-2010 09:43 AM |
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A spoon and fork XD you can eat the zombie. Mmmmmmm, yummy. |
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Administrator Account ZP Game Dev Team
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| 08-04-2010 10:17 PM |
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Ninjo has made a "dream set" of 6 decapitation tools. We will add them to the game this weekend but here is a sneak preview. We imagine that there will be some variation in the oppinions of how much damage these babies should cause. So when we do create them we would greatly appreciate your input if you disagree with the stats and we will be happy to adjust accordingly. As an example some of these weapons might have an agility penalty but compensate by deal massive damage on impact etc.
 
 
 
We have included Ninjos comments:
Kunai - A perfectly balanced 7 foot long solid piece of damascus steel shaped like a giant kunai!!!!!
Shaolin spade - This makes decapitation like shooting pool! A six foot long staff with a crescent blade counterbalanced with a weight at the pommel. This is bad ass but not as much as the kunai sword.
Naginata spear - A 5 foot staff with a huge blade!
Kusarigama - A 5 pound hammer connected to a 10 foot chain with a sickle. throw the weight at the feet of a zombie wrapping the chain around, pull and he is off his feet! a quick blow decapitates the offending incapacitated zed!
War Hammer - A 5 feet long pretty hard to wield, but gives a huge payoff. swing, brain, repeat. |
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CarlBreder
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| 08-04-2010 10:44 PM |
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hm... im gonna pass on this one, i dont think this would be right to implement in the game, in Japan maybe, but not the where-we-are  |
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| 08-04-2010 10:55 PM |
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^its as based in reality as the guns available. the first one in the list there is the zanbato (i think thats what it was called?) the second is the kunai sword, that version looks funny for some reason, im sure admin will replace it with the second version in game. but it would really be the holy grail for decapitation, its perfectly balanced and made of great metal. i suggest it has the highest attack at a slight cost to agility.
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Irus
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| 08-04-2010 11:50 PM |
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Yes, its called Zanbato. Sweet its a dream weapon!  (Looks very cool btw) not entirely sure about the kunai sword. How heavy would that thing be? Love the Shaolin Spade and Kusarigama. and the other 2 are alright. |
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Odigo
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| 09-04-2010 01:40 AM |
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The Kunai should be attached to a piece of rope, then you can attack a zombie at a longer range then pull them closer for an Uppercut--No wait, wrong game. |
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| 09-04-2010 02:45 AM |
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Thanks for the improvements! From a physics point of view, force can be calculated by multiplying mass x acceleration. The war hammer has so such a long lever and weight behind it that just the force of gravity will shatter a man with no problem. It should have huge attack power, but limits your agility and you can only attack once ever x amount of turns. This goes for all of the big heavy weapons that are extra long and require two handsl, the huge sword and spear. A pole weapon like the naginata spear is more effectively used at mid-range vs close range, so there should be a accuracy penalty if the enemy is to close for a proper swing. The majority of these weapons should have no problem doing a one hit one kill for small fry enemies and will for sure take limbs off.Thats what they do in real life. With weapons like this more people will use melee a little more, because they are able to perform a different function from firearms. I mean come on' who doesn't like amputating. decapitating, and disemboweling a zed? To piggy back on a couple of points, we should come up with more themed weapons. I have suggested a few weapons that were used in the Roman Colosseum, so seeing some armor that goes with the weapons will be a natural fit. Oh CarlBreder, if you want realism when was the last time you've ever been to a corner gun store that sells unlimited stock in ammunition and military grade weapons. If you really want to get realistic with weapons we would have to strip players of a lot of weapons that they own now, like the mini-gun, grenade launcher, PSG-1, and many more. I actually know people who own and have some training with some of the above melee weapons. I would not want to mess with them when they have something like a katana or spear in their hands. Oh, if it ain't too much trouble, can we please have that sishkabob weapon from Fall out 3. I would imagine it would be expensive, needs a fuel supply, is a danger to the player, and is hard to maintain, but it would ignite enemies in a fire storm and melt them straight to the bone. It may have multiple applications as a light source or barricade burner. Imagine a weapon that can set small vehicles on fire and turn bunched up groups of zombies to ash. It is essentially a napalm flame thrower with a metal protrusion that be used to cut. A very dangerous weapon that is high risk high reward. It might be the mini-gun equivalent of melee weapons |
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Irus
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| 09-04-2010 03:11 AM |
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Large post dude, But a nice one. I really like the idea of really large weapons having a turn recharge rate. We can apply this with guns too while we're at it with the talked about overheating with the mini gun, jamming with M16's etc. Just that we can apply turn recharges. It'd keep players on their toes. |
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| 09-04-2010 06:13 AM |
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Could you put some of them at blades of steel? They have a sorry collection of blades and they are in dire need of better stock. |
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| 10-04-2010 02:33 AM |
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2 birds with 1 stone, the zanbuto and hammer is there now! 8] |
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Irus
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| 10-04-2010 05:50 AM |
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Zanbato. (Zahn- Bah- Toe) I call it the Z Sword Personally. I think its catchy, The Z Sword (for Zanbato, and Zombie) When in doubt snag the Z Sword.  |
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CarlBreder
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| 10-04-2010 01:36 PM |
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i'd say its awesome, its high damage makes it useful for anything getting close(and thats not much)  awesome, awesome and awesome |
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Odigo
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| 11-04-2010 03:51 AM |
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what was that Monk spade tool the Max Brooks was talking about? That would be neat to have. |
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lurchdeath
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| 11-04-2010 09:47 AM |
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I played with some of the weapons. The zanbato is what I expected, but it still could use a higher close combat at the expense of agility or losing x amount of turns. I guess it could have a marginally beefier attack, but is adequate. The naginata has sorry attack power for a pole weapon that can literally cut somebody's head off with no problems. It would be nice to see that weapons like spears or pitchforks have the option of performing a stabbing attack to push back enemies and a second option of a swing. Same goes with the shaolin spade, however all of these weapons are new, so we got lots of time to find the right stats and abilities. It is fun to see how we the players can contribute so much to a game. This is why I like zombie pandemic, our beta input is looked at by administrators and results happen fairly quickly. |
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ninjo ZP Community Moderator
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| 11-04-2010 06:05 PM |
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yes! all that! ^ |
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Seth Myrrh
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| 12-04-2010 12:19 AM |
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I would have to agree with Carl. This is way too specific. I would like to see the use of more basic household items first. Even items that break over time, and the image can change with it. Such as a broom that takes damage as you hit with it. It will first lose the brush head, then the handle will snap in half, then it turns into a 1 hit spear type weapon. Or if your killing a zombie in a construction zone, maybe you could knock him down, and then drop a cinder block on his head until it smashes, or his head smashes. Wich ever comes first haha. |
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CarlBreder
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| 12-04-2010 08:20 AM |
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and where a broom dont last for more then a few hits, a broadsword, a machete... or a katana would last... to the end of your brains.... or to the day you dont clean it  |
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lurchdeath
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| 15-04-2010 09:10 AM |
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I get your concern for more mundane objects. A potato sack, Garbage can, Toilet lid, Kitchen sink, light bulbs, door, However, this thread does ask for the more over the top melee weapons. In which case we could have: Cattle rods Fan blades Pendulum Three section staff Mace (the heavy weapon not the spray) Jaws of life Black jack Sword breaker A squirt gun, it can be armed with acid, napalm, or a freezing agent at a short distance Nuke on a stick, a high explosive on the end of stick that destroys user and enemy
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Irus
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| 15-04-2010 11:40 AM |
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....nuke on a stick? ....really? If so, then whenever pvp comes out I'm hiding from Kamikaze noobs with cash. 0.o |
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| 15-04-2010 04:25 PM |
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My favorite weapon to play with IRL is the sai. It's actually not a dagger, it's blunt, so it's used more for stabbing/crushing/hooking/trapping/striking/blocking. Actually, come to think with it, it probably won't be that great in the current combat system. Unless limb targeting is used, then maybe you could trap a zombie arm or neck and snap it... still it probably won't be that great against zombies. Probably the only 'exotic' weapon listed here so far that isn't. Would be an interesting balance. As for more mundane weapons that would be interesting: scalpel (scavenged from the hospital perhaps?), craft knife, anything heavy on the end of a chain, computer mouse, pickaxe, hammer, scissors. |
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| 15-04-2010 05:58 PM |
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How about mason jars? It is a variation of the squirt gun and molotov cocktail. You fill a container with something potent like metal pieces and combine it with an explosive. You may even replace it with acid or napalm. The only real difference is the jar can be filled with more material and will probably be thrown at a shorter distance.
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| 16-04-2010 04:15 PM |
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Their should be stats with items instead of just damage and range.Im pretty confident that a person is more agile swinging a dagger than they would swinging a 2-handed Bastard sword. |
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| 17-04-2010 11:09 AM |
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Rocket launching katana with lasers. Imagine that... |
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